Our Position

March 29, 2001

Long before I ever knew of a five-fold ministry, I was a part of it because I accepted apostles and prophets. Not until the web came around did I know of a five-fold community. I was in my cave and thought I must be the only one around that the Lord has taught these things to, then I got connected. Anyway, same source. The 4th chapter of Ephesians lays out the Lord's foundation principles of church structure. In that others are not into that divine structure is to their shame and the overwhelming effect of that is that there is an anointing on a five-fold ministry community in these last days that will turn the world right side up.

That community is organized in a real-time network. Except for the masses, the entire world is connected. Jesus is putting together His end-time army that will flow into the streets and I want to be part of it, how about you?

We begin our Christian walk positioned in Jesus. Love and life have placed us in a secure foundation of resurrection power, redemption and holiness. This is what God says:

For I am the LORD your God: you shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall you defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creeps upon the earth. Lev. 11:44

The Lord would have us sanctify ourselves and the shed blood of Jesus Christ did it all. Not the fact but the effectiveness of that positional relationship is diminished if we are drawn by our lusts and depart from holiness. We must make sure that we are in a holiness of power right now. Earthly ones have been down there creeping around with the crawlers and defiled themselves in the earth.  

Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. Ph 3:13.
I wrote of a solemn assembly and that starts with ourselves crying out to God. If not for ourselves then at least for the sake of others.

Arlette has consented to organize a prayer group, taking prayer requests and distributing them to a list. If you are called to intercession or need prayer - Pleeeeeez get back to Arlette. We can get e-mail requests out to you so that you can pray, or be more involved with personal e-mail contact and follow-up for them. And be connected to other prayer groups around the world.

Please join us in prayer. E-mail Arlette to be on the mailing list.

Back when we were just getting started with this list, I wrote this in Dec. 1999:

Jesus is in charge and I can see where He is going with this list and that is in the discernment and prophetic agreement being reflected on my web site, which I need to discuss. I knew from the beginning that others would be involved with my site sooner or later. The Lord has given it to me for His glory so I cannot consider it completely my own and it must be shared. I have worked hard on it. It is not yet perfect but the Lord has blessed it in that it is not a mega-site by any means but I do get around 3500 people a week stopping by and rising. I want to open it up as an opportunity for all of us in one way or another to actively minister here, by discussion, discernment, direct involvement, networking or prayer support. As far as the spiritual latter rain, its web presence has given the site the definitive authority and that includes the five-fold. To represent such a distinguished company should be in terms of we and not I and this is where you come in. Enough said, this is open for discussion.

We have discussed a few things since then and God has blessed the site and those that have been exposed to it through a united effort. I need to re-dedicate myself to those original goals and I need to thank everyone. We all need to re-dedicate ourselves to lifting Jesus up more and in encouraging others to do the same. God is telling us to move and He wants to empower us first. Jesus is holy. The power starts with being in Jesus and it spreads out into the streets. We are in the season of prayer where all over the world Jesus is being lifted up. Many are coming together as One to join forces with the heavenly host. It's an exciting time.


Is it not simply a day to day walk with our beloved?


Excellent post! Holiness is a subject that has really divided and confused people, myself included to some extent. I agree with everything you said, but am still somewhat unsettled.

You brought up the classic argument on holiness, that being one of position in Christ versus ethical. The Bible says that without holiness one will not see God. If that is ethical, how does one know if he has ever achieved it? If it is positional, then how do we know that? If both, as you seemed to say, then what? I guess it gets a little into the once saved always saved argument. But how do we know without being deceived and self righteous (as you brought out)? Positional holiness, ethical holiness, both, 60-40, 70-30?????????

I want to say that I too have been on a list where someone claims to be "Elijah". He speaks to the list through someone else and if you do not receive his words you are doomed. I refuted one of his so called prophecies of doom and gloom for the nation and was told by his go-between that I had one last chance to receive his words and repent...or go down the tubes with the rest of the nation. Some of the prophecies given were very extreme and flat out exaggerations.


Hi Dan,

I would have to say that we are to add up to 100% of Jesus no matter what. I think that the Lord will give us tugs if there are certain percentages lacking anywhere in our lives. We need to be sensitive, listen, be willing to eat humble pie and do what we can be in the position of holiness power. There is more to it and we will discuss more but this is a good question. Good teaching.


Hello Jay,

I dont understand how the children of GOD can let pride become a factor when GOD uses us to proclaim his messages. Its not like we have anything to do with it. He gives us his word for two reasons. The first is to edify the saints. The second is to bring forth warnings to make corrections. Most of the time when i do this i don't understand what i am saying. But the person it is for understands perfectly. Pride is a dangerous trick of satan. The enemy doesn't like GOD proclaiming his words through us. That is why we are constantly under attack from him. Everything we do must be done through our love for JESUS and each other. Love is not puffed up. Blessed are those who wait on the LORD to proclaim his words. If we act by love along we will get blessed from what GOD says to us. And the LORD says my words will burn like fire. We must remember that GOD used a donkey to rebuke satan. None of us should be bragging about our prophetic gift.

And the Lord of Hosts says, Listen, I will send my messenger before me to prepare the way. And then the one you are looking for will come suddenly to His temple. The messenger of God's promises to bring you great joy. Yes, He is surely coming says the Lord of hosts. But who can live when he appears. Who can endure his coming. For he is like a blazing fire refining precious metal and can bleach the dirtiest garments! Like a refiner of silver, he will set and closely watch as this drose is burned away. He will purify the ministers of God, refining them like gold and silver so that they can do the work of God with pure hearts.


[Eph. 4:22-24] ' That ye put off concerning the former manner of life the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind ; and that ye put on the new man which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Personal holiness is a work of gradual development. It is carried on under many hindrance, so the frequent admonitions in Scripture to watchfulness, prayer, and perseverance.

Renunciation and appropriation are to be concurrent processes. To the old self, at once misguided and defiled, no clemency is to be shown. Summary crucifixion is its desert. And if the full-grown brood of mischief is to be extirpated, even the freakish little foxes that spoil the grapes must not be spared for all their whining.

Intolerance.--- 'And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name ; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. and Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not : and, as Mark adds, 'Their is no man which shall do miracle in my name that can lightly speak evil of me.'

What is intolerance but the dispositions to compel uniformity in minor matters.

Ambition.--- The two brothers James and John, had joined with their mother in the request for seats on the right hand and the left in the Kingdom. But Jesus taught them that he who would be chief of all must, as Mark says, be ' servant of all,' 'even as the Son of man came not to be served but to serve others, and to give his life a ransom for many.' The wrong disposition was ambition, whose motto is self-will, self-interest, getting up, and getting on, and getting ahead of others. Our Lord here taught them how evil the ambitious spirit is, and what evils are its offspring.

Vindictiveness.--- He ' sent messengers before his face : and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.' That is, the appearance was that He was going by them, and they took offence at the apparent slight, so that they would not extend their hospitality to Him. 'And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? And our Lord replied : 'Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of, for the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

Now what are the marks of the 'new man'? If we turn again to Scripture we shall find them, and this time in a single verse of 2Tim. 1:7 : 'God gave us not a spirit of fearfulness : but of power, love, and discipline. Passing by the negative spirit of fearfulness, we see that the characteristics of the new man are power, love, and discipline. And these three are in direct contrast to the marks of the old man : ambition, intolerance, vindictiveness.

Power.--- The ambitious man desires power. When he rests in God, he obtains the power which once he so unlawfully sought.

Love.--- The spirit of love is an organ of vision. The finest knowledge is gained by the finest feeling. Sympathy is the great interpreter of secrets. Love is sight. It is only the loveless who are blind. The loveless do not see the beauties of Nature. It is only when love is enthroned that there is 'a new heaven and a new earth,' and that 'all things become new.' The loveless do not see the truth of humanity. It is Love who sees the wickedness of the city, and weeps over it. The capacity of love is the capacity to judge. If we are to know the truth of things, we need the spirit of love.

Disipline.--- We are made so as to need the exercise continually of firm and resolute self-government. We have tastes and desires which to make the guides of life, or to gratify without stint and without restraint, is ruinous. Blind passions are not meant to guide seeing reason; but if reason be the eye it is meant to guide the blind. We have only to look at ourselves and see how there are in us a whole clamorous mob of desires imperatively demanding sustenance; and, further, to mark how in each man there is a voice that says, 'Thou shalt, thou shalt not'---we need only look at ourselves to know what is meant to coerce and keep well down under hatches all these blind propensions and desires, and to set sovereign above them a will that cannot be bribed, a reason that will not be deceived, and a conscience that will be true of God.

There is only one thing that will give complete self-command. Trust to Jesus Christ ; ask Him to govern, and He will help you to control yourselves. Where ever you are master, be master inside your own soul. And that you may, be the servant of Him who alone will make you master of yourself and of the world.

In Christ, Timothy.

Salvation is not merely deliverance from sin, nor the experience of personal holiness; the salvation of God is deliverance out of self entirely into union with Himself. Our experimental knowledge of salvation will be along the line of deliverance from sin and of personal holiness ; but salvation means that the Spirit of God has brought me into touch with God's personality, and I am caught up into the abandonment of God.

To say that we are called to preach holiness or sanctification, is to get into a side-eddy. We are called to proclaim Jesus Christ. The fact that He saves from sin and makes us holy is part of the effect of the wonderful abandonment of God.

[2 Cor. 7:1] 'Having, therefore, these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of the Lord.'

Holiness is " something that God gives to Christians [1 Cor. 1:30 ; 2 Thess 2:13] but also something Christians strive to complete [1Cor. 7:34 ; 1 Thess. 4:1-8 ; Rom. 6:19], as well as something that God will ultimately complete [1 Thess. 3:13]"

[2 Cor. 7:1] Yielding : The place of God's abode is to be always pure. That which is false, in rebelling against God, and hurtful cannot abide where God abides. God dwells in believers and believers are the church. The church must not yield to worldly influence of any kind. The church must "come out and be separate" from false doctrine and false living.

There is a "cost" which must be paid to follow Jesus--- separation from whatever is disapproved by Jesus and his word. But what a reward! The separated one "is welcomed" ["taken by the hand, taken hold of"] by God into God's eternal family like the 'father' welcomed the "prodigal son" [Lk. 15:11-24]. The "cost" for separation from ungodliness is infinitesimal compared with the reward!

So what is the practical power of the promises? The Apostle John gives a very similar counsel. In 1 Jn. he says, 'And every man hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. Our hope is based upon the promises ; and the promises which Paul has been recalling to mind are [1] the indwelling of God ; [2] his free reception of us ; and [3] his fatherhood and our sonship, with all the love and care and keeping which these involve.

Since God has promised judgment [2 Cor. 5:10-11] for the impenitent and gracious adoption [2 Cor. 6:16-18] for the separated, it is imperative that we have a cleansing from every pollution of body and spirit. Body, soul and spirit make up the whole man [1Thess. 5:23]. A man cannot keep his body pure but sin with his mind and expect Christ's approval [Matt. 5:21-30]. Nor should the christian try to justify himself by saying he keeps his mind pure so it doesn't matter what he does with his body. That Gnostic sophistry is thoroughly denounced by Scripture [1Jn. 3:4-10,ect.]. Defilement 'of body and spirit' means that the entire person, externally and internally, is corrupted by any rebellious practice, in much the same way that sexual relations with a prostitute corrupts both body and spirit [1 Cor. 6:15-18].

We cannot cleanse our own consciences from the guilt of sin. So how do we cleanse ourselves? God has to do that. God has given promises of blessing if we walk in separation from evil, and now we must see to it that we meet the conditions. Our consciences can be cleansed from sin only by the precious atoning blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. As I receive that Word in faith and I act upon it, I cleanse myself from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit.

Paul called the Corinthians to perfect their 'holiness.' Perfect means "to bring to completion", "to bring to its intended goal." We are commanded to 'follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord' [Heb. 12:14]. We are intended to press on towards the goal of perfection [Heb. 6:1]. And this is to be done 'in the fear of the Lord'---that is, in reverence and devotion towards Him to whom we owe everything, in awe of Him at whose judgment-seat we shall have to give an account of the things done in he body [Heb. 5:10], and in dread lest, through carelessness and disloyalty, we should be ashamed before Christ at His coming [1 Jn. 2:28].

Judgment begins at the house of God.
The fear of God is a healthy attitude! Peter tells us to 'pass the time of our sojourning here in fear' [1 Pet. 1:17]. Only the fear of God will purge a world in rebellion against God of its wickedness. Only the fear of God will restore that sense of awe, respect and worship that is absent from both the church and the world, Isaiah wrote, '...when thy judgments are in the earth the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness. If favor is shown to the wicked, he does not learn righteousness ; in the land of uprightness he deals perversely and does not see the majesty of the Lord.' [Isa. 26:9-10]. The Psalmist said 'When he slew them [the Israelites in the wilderness] they sought for him ; they repented and sought God earnestly.' [Ps. 78:34}

The scriptures bear witness that a significant contributing factor to purging the church of its plague of worldliness is consistent proclamation of the judgment and fear of God. The goal of holiness is reached through the fear of God. Not a bad plan for the church to follow in any age! As we submit ourselves to the Word and seek to judge those things that we see to be contrary to the mind of God, we will grow in grace and thus become holier men and women.

In Christ, Timothy.

It is refreshing to hear someone out there who has perceptions similar to mine. The Word says the road to destruction is wide and the way to life is narrow and this must be true because very few people really seem to have a handle on it...simply JESUS. If we keep our eyes on Him and desire to please the Father and let His spirit be our guide, we can't go wrong but it is so easy to see where others are...for example the person I mentioned comparing the 12 tribes of Israel and the zodiac. I cringe in horror inside every time she tells me I am a certain way because I am a scorpio! By the same token we must have compassion on those souls who are going down the wide road to destruction because they are lost, in bondage and at the gates of hell in many cases so we must pray for them and for the churches that are deceived that the Holy Spirit will be poured out upon them in these last days and they will see the WHOLE truth in acts and realize that no where in the Bible does it say that this was only for the early church! Also, looking at Jesus life, He did not do anything supernatural, such as fasting, resisting direct temptation from the devil or perform miracles until He got baptized and He was baptized (this in in Matthew 3) in water even though He needed no redemption but then He received the baptism of the Holy Ghost as the windows of heavens opened and the Father's spirit descended on Him in the form of a dove! Anyway, there is my 2 cents worth. Have you heard this movement of the Joshua generation?

Hi Audette,

I have not actually heard of any movement called the Joshua generation, so I cannot comment on it except to say that we are probably in it. But then you could also say that we are in the Elijah generation also, and the Moses generation, and the Enoch generation. Many of the Old Testament characters are fulfilled in the church today. Joshua was a type of Christ, he was a deliverer and led Israel to the promised land, so then, we are in that generation. We are soon to enter in ourselves. Praise the Lord, maranatha.


Sanctification in Scripture is three-fold : [1] positional the Christian is taken out of the world and seated with Christ [Jn. 17:16] ; [2] Practical---the believer has day to day victory over sin and grows in holiness and in likeness to Christ, [3] perfect--- 'We shall be like Him for we shall see Him as He is' [1 Jn. 3:1-2].

Holiness is the characteristic mark of a believer in both the OT and the NT. He that would stand in the holy pace to worship God must have clean hands and a pure heart and not have sworn to a lie [Ps. 24:3-4]. To dwell in God's holy mountain---in His presence-one must walk with integrity and do no wrong to his neighbor [Ps. 15]. God "chose us in Him [Christ] before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him" [Eph. 1:4]. Our sanctification is God's direct and perfect will for us [1 Thess. 4:3].

To make positional sanctification practical, Paul wrote the letter of 1 Corinthians. The spirit of the world seemed more influential in the Corinthian church than the Spirit of God, despite the splendidly evident of gifts given by the Spirit. Paul wanted to change that.

2 Cor. 13:5-7. Throughout this letter Paul subjected himself and his ministry to scrutiny. Now he handed the lens to the Corinthians, with the challenge that they consider their own conduct [yourselves is in the emphatic position in Gr.]. Paul's question is usually construed with regard to positional justification : Were they Christians or not? But it is more likely concerned practical sanctification : Did they demonstrate that they were in the faith [1 Cor. 6:13] and that Christ was in them by their obeying His will? To stand the test was to do what was right. To fail was to be disobedient and therefore subject to God's discipline.

Rom. 6:17-18. This discussion reminded the Apostle Paul of what the grace of God had already accomplished in his readers lives and he burst forth in praise. Before they responded to the gospel they had been slaves to sin, but the wholeheartedly [lit. out from their hearts] obeyed the form of teaching to which they were entrusted. Hearing the teaching of God's Word, they committed themselves to those truths. The commitment was evidenced by their response to the gospel and their being baptized. The results was that they have been set free from sin and have become slaves [past tense] to righteousness. [Rom. 6:22]

This is positional and must be manifested in daily experience, but it demonstrates again that their is no middle ground. Christians are not to give in to sin because they are dead to it and no longer slaves of it. It is totally contrary to Gods plan for slaves of righteousness to become enslaved to sin!

The all compelling motivation which determines both our religious and our ethical conduct must be one of response to the grace of God, a motivation not of reward but of gratitude.

In Christ. Timothy.

[1 Pet. 4:19] 'Wherefore, let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well-doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

Christians are called upon to commit the care of their bodies, their lives, their reputation, there property, their relations to God, with a distinct understanding that they may be called on by him to part with them all ; and well pleased to part with them all, in the assurance that their souls are safe in his keeping ; safe in life, safe in death, safe for ever.

Persecuted Christians are encouraged to do this not only because God is Creator, but ' a faithful Creator.' The new creature cannot but have an expectation, that he who has given it true life will preserve it, will never let it perish. 'Faithful is he who hath promised, who also will do it.' 'He is not a man that he should lie, nor the son of man that he should repent. Hath he said it, and will he not do it? Hath he promised it, and will he not make it good?

Connected with the statement, the Apostle Peter makes a very impressive announcement of the dreadful doom of 'those who obey not the gospel of God.' The beginning of the judgment was to come on the house or family of God ; the end of it on them who obey not the gospel of God. The first drops were to fall on the former, the collected tempest on the latter; the first were to be chastened, severely chastened, but on the last was to come 'wrath to the uttermost.'

Christians are to commit their souls to God in 'well-doing' [holiness]. We have that freedom. The persecuted Christians were to continue in well-doing. They had done well in embracing the gospel, denying themselves, and becoming followers of Christ ; and they must persevere in doing well, by holding fast their profession. However severe the trials of Christians may be, they are nothing compared with the impenitent and unbelieving.

They who obey the gospel are as sure of salvation as the love and power, the faithfulness and wisdom, of God can make them. When it is said they are 'scarcely saved,' the reference is not to the uncertainty of their being saved, but to the difficulties and trials they may experience in the course of their being saved.

The absence of trial is a worse sign than what we might be disposed to think about an excess of trial. ' If ye were without chastisement, of which all are partakers, then were ye bastards, and not sons.' [Heb. 12:8]

But it is not exposure to trial, but the endurance of trial, in 'a patient continuance in well-doing [holiness],' that is the characteristic mark of those who obey the gospel of God.

If judgment begin at the house of God, what will the end be of those who obey not the gospel of God? and, if the righteous scarcely be saved, where will the ungodly and the sinner appear? These words most strikingly bring before our minds both the severity and the certainty of the punishment which awaits the wicked. If even the children of God, the objects of his peculiar love, are severely chastened for their faults in this season of Divine forbearance, what can those who are the objects of his moral disapprobation and judicial displeasure expect, but the unmitigated punishment of their sin, under an economy which is the revelation of his righteous judgment, where justice is to have free course and to be glorified?

In Christ, Timothy.

Today on Faith's site people were talking about the Lord's return and I'll have to tell you I do wait expectantly for His return. But I think that it is still a good way to go by sharing how much and how deep is His love for us. I think someone talked about it today on your daily journal about "the fear of the Lord" - the reverence and honor due His name. I know that's how I always see Him. Never have grown tired of how big, wonderful, majestic, awesome, powerful He is. He keeps growing bigger in my eyes, and heart. Never an hour or usually minute goes by that I don't feel His presence. Guess you can tell how much I love Him. Sometimes I think He needs to take me back a little bit on seeing how wonderful He is, then I change my mind and say, no make me stronger so I can handle as much of Him as I can.

Many blessings,

LORD, TO YOU...............

Lord, to you, we owe everything.
Lord, to you, we dance and we sing.
Lord, to you, we humble ourselves.
Lord, to you, we cry out from sin.

Your life was given,
On a hill and a cross.
Our life is given,
with a promise to that cross.

Your life is righteous, holy and true,
Our life is filthy, when not dedicated to You.
Help us to be, so righteous and true,
Worthy of worship and honouring You.

Heavenly bound, is our wish to be.
Surely not hell bound and penance to do.
Mercy and grace is your gift to us.
All that You ask is faith and to trust.

The enemy, races in with a rush,
to slaughter and kill is never enough.
To slander and weaken all of your people.
To tread under foot, your heavenly vessels.

Here in your word, so faithful and true,
You give us promises of victory sweet.
Satan and his demons, our heavenly foes.
Wicked and sinful, defeated and beaten.

Rejoicing and gleeful,
Worshipping the King.
All of your people,
Freed from evil and sin.

Ours is a future,
Of heavenly reward.
The present soon future,
Our prize to look forward.

The cost of discipleship,
Of such a high calling.
Sacrifice and wanting,
No thought to of falling.

The cross that you bore,
On that wretched day.
Beaten and bloody, rejected and alone.
Convicts us now of all that we've done.

To slander You now, after Calvary's stand,
And to reject that gift from God's mighty hand.
Is to forever dwell, feeble and weak,
In hell-fire and brimstone, for eternity lost.

Your gift of grace,
And mercy abounding.
The treasures of heaven, of God and His Son.
Given so richly to you and to me.

So costly a price, is given to man,
Beaten and dieing, we dwell in grave fear.
A joyous gift, so precious and dear.
And yet wretchedly sneered at by you and by me.

Although we accept, your gifts of great price.
We defy You and disobey You,
While still calling You Lord.
Putting to nothing, Your death on the cross.

Victory won, is Your precious prize.
Freedom and salvation Your victors crown.
Not for Yourself, but for Your servants and slaves
. Set free to worship before Your royal throne.

Ours is the choice,
To bow down before You,
Or to take up that crown,
That's so rightfully Yours.

To be in rebellion, disobedience and sin,
Is to tread on that blood,
So precious and costly.
Given to us on Calvary's hill.

Of wood and of iron,
Tis not that which killed,
But the rebellion of man,
Against God's will.

His precious Son,
Much loved and adored.
The price God paid,
To see us set free.

Much is the sorrow, suffering and pain,
Torture and agony, for what bitter gain?
To pardon creation, wicked and slain,
Wallowing in filth, agony and pain.

Ours the sweet relish, of freedom so dear.
Of death and of despair, sin and of fear.
These things we relinquish,
Not bought with our deeds.

But the pure sweet sacrifice,
Of a heavenly deed,
Lovingly given, no bitterness to bare.
Ours to accept and to revere it so dear.

A gift from our God,
Who loves man so dear.
Never to leave him,
To hell and to fear.


God Bless you, Jay and thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to bring this vital and timely message. Personally I believe that the message of this hour IS indeed At-One-Ment, which involves His Holiness being perfected and seen in/through our lives, and I also see a tremendous amount of human effort going on in that direction, as the enemy attempts to short circuit God's dealings in the lives of those (all of us) who are intended to manifest HIS holiness; not our own shabby imitation. The results of HIS perfecting Holiness that I notice both in my own life and those around me are humility, grace, and as your message said we lift each other up ... not put anyone down. The opposite, of course, is arrogance, self righteous judgementalism, and mistrust ... all rooted in FEAR (which is not merely an emotion but a spirit of torment). Our enemies are NOT our brothers and sisters who have been deceived and put in religious bondage by the enemy ... our enemy is the condemner and accuser of the brethren (and sistren :-) ).

God Bless you for your continued ministry as the Latter Rain of His presence continues to be poured out.


Amen to that Bill,

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